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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
 Post Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:11 pm 
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Matvei wrote:
Are there any plans for a second run of armour? I'm still interested in getting hold of some to finish off my engineers kit.

Talking of finishing off engineers, the sound of 7.92mm gewehrkugel penetrating the breastplate will be akin to steel ball-bearings being thrown into a metal bucket.
Or is it Moscow Central political perspective that the technological superior SN42 Armour Complex is proof against inferior Gitlerite munitions? :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
 Post Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:30 pm 
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Hi Matt, no, sorry, no more is going to be made. This was a one off project and I did not make 1p out of it. I put a huge amount of work into making it happen. Sorry you have missed the boat on this one.

Cheers, Ade.

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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:07 pm 
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Comrades, Here is newly declassified Elint from the Genossen of the Fraternal de. Forum...

http: //www.wk2-reenactment.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3541 ( lose the space between the : and / for it to work).

Some interesting work in progress, also the use of large clips on to the plates rather than to D rings.... This Rezidencies R and D Directorate has recalled the example of the Scale of Issue for possible redesigning in the face of the Historical Document Images now available.

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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 9:21 pm 
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Adrian wrote:
I did not make 1p out of it.



Comrade Adrian,
You have performed your Patriotic Duty, we can ask no more to succeed in our Historic Mission as Activists and Agitators within this Direction of Interest.( which is our Norm.)
To have the Fraternal respect of your Comrades is more than most will ever have in this Sweet Sickness.

This Rezident has sent a Positive Report regarding Your and your Command's work on this Project to Moscow Centre and the Glorious 2nd Guards Command Complex.

You are .... Big Man, Big Man.

Respect.

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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:20 pm 
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At the recent battle of Scarborograd, the body armour was worn by assault engineers in their futile resistance against the inexorable advance of German Kultur.
Interestly the armour was covered by white cloth which contrasted greatly against the camouflage suits worn be the attacking Bolsheviks,thereby providing an excellent aiming point for our advanced weapon systems. Perhaps you can confirm whether this practice was within the Scale of Norms or was it a Momentary Abberation due to false Political Consciousness?

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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:06 pm 
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the bloke who made that - made it from scratch i belive, don't know how or what of - i have a picture from history at murton he made a tankist hekmet too

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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:18 pm 
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Alles Klar, a field improvisation then. I'm reading too many intercepts of communiques from Moscow Central, the style is infectious.

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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
 Post Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 7:36 pm 
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I have seen several pics of "armour" done by this chap. I am sorry, and I don't wish to be uncomradely, but I can only describe it as a bad joke. It looks like plastic or rubber done up with tape. There are more pics of this on:

http://www.osbmedia.co.uk/

It is also grossly inaccurate in having "shoulders" on both sides.

This armour was never provided with a cloth cover.

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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
 Post Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 9:19 am 
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It isn't SN42 armour for a start, and don't worry, I won't be wearing it again, it was based on some research that I have now found to be wrong. It was the first set I had made and was worn at Murton Park and on the field for one day at Scarborough. It is actually leather (for stiffness) and canvas used to represent the 40 layers of silk that was used in the primitive mine clearance armour that was used by western allies and turns out wasn't supplied to their soviet comrades as my initial research showed. Image

I did try to obtain some SN42 armour but wasn't able to, I was looking into commissioning some "leningrad armour" but costs were prohibitive.

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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
 Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 12:36 pm 
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Helmut wrote:
Alles Klar, a field improvisation then. I'm reading too many intercepts of communiques from Moscow Central, the style is infectious.


Genosse BrianB,

Tak Tochno!
After the many years of the throwing back of your Posts by this Command, it is good to see at last you are making some sense at last... :lol:

It serves your Political Perception and Cultural Development well.... :D

As for the Denounced Armour Complex, Da! Comrade Matvei's R and D Directorate needs to be Purged :twisted: , but his wish to develop Complexes to further the Combat Readiness of this Rezidency is to be repected.

Advances in Battle Technology is always paid in Blood.

All strength to your arm Comrade Matvei.
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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
 Post Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:29 pm 
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I watched a documentary recently on TV which was about an Elizabethan warship recovered from the channel.When they recovered a musket they got a guy from Royal Amouries in Leeds to make a repro version which they tested against a flat steel plate of 2mm thickness.They used this thickness because the cheese eating surrender monkeys were making their soldiers breast plates the same thickness.
First they fired a Glock (inferior gitlerite)9mm pistol against it and the bullet did not penetrate at 25m range.
Then they fired the musket and it blew a geat hole right through also at 25m.
Now the plate was flat not shaped like the SN42 body armour so was ballistically weaker,and is evidence that the armour was proof against 9mm rounds.

So the lesson here is that the Fash hordes should have used matchlock muskets and not MP40s.
URRAH.

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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
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Sorry Matt, I honestly thought this was supposed to be a set of SN42.

I too have never heard of any Allied body armour being supplied to the Red Army, so you are right to discontinue wearing this. The non metalic body armour was a WW1 development was it not? The British body armour developed and used in WW2 was the so called "MRC pattern" or Medical Research Council pattern. I have a set of this in my collection. It is very light and easy to wear but sadly not supplied to the Soviets to the best of my knowledge.

The so called "Leningrad" pattern was actually the SN38. I may do a repro set at some point in the future as I have two original sets in my collection to copy from.

Cheers, Ade.

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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
 Post Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:08 pm 
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Comrades,
This is the latest declassified Moscow Centre intercepts regarding SN42 Arm made from a Museum Piece..

http://www.allegro.pl/item735023359_sn_ ... udnik.html

Urrah!.

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 Post subject: Re: Engineer's body armour
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Looks good.

Cheers, Ade.

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