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Zhenya
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Post subject: Shoulder Boards and Shirts Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 1:01 pm |
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Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:19 pm Posts: 52
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Hi guys
got the following question from a new member of our group here in Ireland, but who belonged previously to a Red Army group in Poland. Can you answer his question? I think the tielnashka is the strippy shirt.
Thanks
Hugh
Hi, I have a little question, about shoulderboards used by RKKA
infantry and artillery,amoured formations. Maybe You know the answer.
Do
infantry units ( companies, platoons) in artillery or amoured (corps,
divisions,) used a shoulderboards with line in colour red, or in colour
violet, like probably yours?
Second question about "tielnashka" shirt do you know any pictures of
soliders, ( not navy ) wearing tielnashka shirt. I am asking You
because my group in Poland allways use it?
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rudy
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:35 pm |
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Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:26 pm Posts: 3
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Hi Zehnya(it is me Marek), Hi everyone. Tielnashka that is stripped shirt you are right.
Salut
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Starshiiy Rob
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:45 pm |
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| Starshiy Serzhant |
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Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:03 am Posts: 265 Location: Peoples Republic of Teesside
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Hi Rudy
I can't answer your first question, but it is worth more research.
In answer to your second one, the Telnyashka was only worn by Russian sailors. However, as the war went on, Russian naval infantry would start to look more like soldiers, as they got further away from their supply depots and had to wear more army uniform. Some things would stay naval, though - their shoulder boards (pagoni), the naval hat (bezkozyrka), the black belt with the anchor and star belt buckle and most of all, the telnyashka. Everything else would be army issue.
_________________ Radu Raduvich Himea
Yefreytor
Captain's Orderly
http://www.2ndguards.com/index.html
DEATHSPOON
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andrei
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:50 pm |
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| Starshiy Serzhant |
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Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:59 pm Posts: 314 Location: warrington
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i thought the airborne wore telinashkas aswell?
_________________ http://2ndguards.com/index.html"Do what you do best Andrei......stay by my side .....and make your Maxim sing!" BobHR Andrei Valtarovich Prusins Guards yehfreytor Kitchen Bitch PTRD gunner
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Starshiiy Rob
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:57 pm |
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Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:03 am Posts: 265 Location: Peoples Republic of Teesside
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Long post-war (after 1957), and it was a different colour (light blue and white).
_________________ Radu Raduvich Himea
Yefreytor
Captain's Orderly
http://www.2ndguards.com/index.html
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Comrade Coffin
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Post subject: Strange Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 12:43 am |
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| Starshiy Serzhant |
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Joined: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:44 pm Posts: 342 Location: Bournemouth
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Maybe I have been unfortunate in the sources that I have encountered, but it seems to me that the Russian Navy has distinguished iteself more highly on land, than it ever has on the sea?
_________________ “Freedom” is a grand word, but under the banner of freedom for industry the most predatory wars were waged, under the banner of freedom of labour, the working people were robbed.
Kolya (Nikolai) Chuvashkin Rank: Guards Mladshiy Serzhant
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"Czang"
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 6:36 pm |
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| Yefreytor |
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Joined: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:28 pm Posts: 66 Location: fixing mothers roof near the mighty Don
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Ive come across this Q more than once,re strippey T shirts and I think the correct answer would seem to be yes,many more troops than just naval types wore them. As far as I can discern the stripey T shirt or vest top was a very popular item of clothing pre war in the USSR ,maybe down to association with red guard sailors of 1917 etc, many troops Im sure in one way or another ,much like many countries soldiers would provide their own under garments even if issue items were available. The other point to make possibly would be that ,as regulations dont permit gymn's to be worn in quite such a 70s porn star manner in most situations the stripe or lack of on a soldiers vest would remain unseen.
As for an entire unit of army rifles wearing them,this could be down to supply and demand on the particular front being recreated but my gut instinct would say stear away if possible ,a crisp white undershirt looks far better and leaves the unit less open to charges of farbiness.
kai.
_________________ "There is a war on,how is it you are going west?"
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